The Politics Thread (zzz)

So Corbyn will be leading the labour party.

Wonder if this is becoming a trend. Perhaps Sanders will rise in the democrat party over here and win the nomination

I hear the British parliament actually spent time debating whether or not to ban Trump from the country :lol:

Not sure he's close to the original constitutional ideals. He wants to ban all Muslims. He wants the government messing with the internet more. Etc. However, he does like to show off his "strength", especially against China and the likes which is a populous message many like.

He really doesn't even have any consistent ideology. Think he just throws shit on the wall and sees what sticks. I can see where his appeal comes from though - not that I like it.

I like Sanders, but I don't think he's necessarily that close to the "constitution's ideals" either. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that. I think the closest guy to the constitution would probably be Rand Paul and he's alright imo, but wouldn't be my choice.

All I know is that this is not a good year for the establishment.

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His excellency John Drama I Mahama.

I didn't really think to associate political incorrectness with the founding fathers. But I feel compelled to say that there is a difference between standing up to the politically correct crowd and being an abrasive prick. Besides, it was a different time back then. And Trump would not fit in with them since they, despite having some large differences of opinion amongst themselves, had much more knowledge about political philosophy than Trump does.

There is no doubt that his refusal to accept donations from corporations is good. Sanders is doing the same. But I'm not sure that makes him immune to Wall Street's influence. Additionally, there is no way Trump can be considered a true free market supporter. Again, he supports imposing tariffs on China and Mexico - not that this is a bad idea necessarily, it would raise prices of consumer goods but at the same time may scare companies into returning to America - it could go either way. He has supported bailouts in the past, including the banks (although on this one, he did question why it wasn't a loan) and the automobile industry. Rand Paul would be the closest thing on the ballot to free market & free trade ideology.

At the end, I'd find myself comparing him to a fascist before comparing him to the founding fathers because he is an opportunist who knows how to attract the media. He's flip flopped many times. Before, he didn't seem to have much of an issue with the Clintons and liberals. Then he got attention  as a conservative with Fox News. Now, he's doing his best to attract all the disillusioned voters who don't really care about ideology but just want someone who is not a politician. Funny, because I think Trump is a brilliant politician who knows how to appeal to the nationalism and rising anger.

And Palin endorsing him, while he stands smiling in the background, shows the opportunist he is. The lady is mad. But he doesn't mind appealing to the crazies. He thrives on it.

What I respect about Sanders is that he just don't show off the fact that he isn't funded by corporations. He also calls for campaign finance reform and the breaking up of banks. Separating investment banks from commercial banks. He actually calls for legislation that will stop the corruption rather than just tell everyone he's immune. That being said, his odds of winning the democratic nomination are small and his odds of getting such legislation passed through congress is far smaller. I don't know much about Corbyn but they do seem similar.

I think Hillary will beat Trump by a landslide unless a huge scandal comes out but Clinton seemingly does quite alright when brushing scandals off her shoulders. The reason Trump will lose is because many of his own party don't like him and the Republican party committed political suicide when they chose to combine conservatism with the dying social values of the older generation. I do have some respect for conservatism as an economic ideology, but cannot stand their marriage with christian fundamentalism, anti science views, etc. As the older generation goes out and the newer one walks in, their base will become smaller and smaller.

Out of curiosity, I'd like to see how you do on this quiz:

www.politicalcompass.org/test/

It should indicate more or less where your ideology lies on the political compass.