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Post by Jie on Sept 5, 2015 13:08:26 GMT
Like that? The blue one is an Australian who moved to Scotland, the orange one is a Serbian in Germany. Trouble with people is that they don't make a difference between immigrant and a refugee. Illegal immigrants are a problem, but it's not just Europe. And if you're not ok with your country letting refugees in, then your problem is with the country, not the people.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 14:38:24 GMT
Yeah, the way I see it is that we're not asking one country to take every refugee in. This should be a planned international effort so no country has too much of the weight. This Syrian boy, for example, had an aunt in Canada that was willing to be a sponsor for the family. She would be responsible for caring for them during their stay. I'm sure there's more people around the world who'd like to be sponsors.
I do doubt that there would be enough willing sponsors, so the remaining refugees can go to refugee camps in different countries. I know people complain about "drains on our society", so my response is don't let them be a drain. Make them productive. The camps should be self sustainable so they can grow their own food. Hire people to help them learn how to improve their own camp. Electricians, construction workers, etc should find this to be a job opportunity. As for benefits, I do think they should get basic health benefits at the very least. Do we not have human decency?
During this time, they could be trying to find sponsors so they can move out of their camp. I know that some lawyers volunteer their time for these type of causes. As for the others in the camp, they'd simply have to wait it out. Syria is fucked right now - the whole region is fucked after years of war destabilizing it. If people flee, who does IS have left to rule? It simply can't carry on (one would hope). Hopefully it will end and then they can return safely in nice ships and planes rather than with shady smugglers in boats. I do think the other (more peaceful) Middle Eastern countries should also put a huge effort in helping the refugees rebuild once they return.
Odds on this sort of thing happening...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 17:46:47 GMT
Like that? The blue one is an Australian who moved to Scotland, the orange one is a Serbian in Germany. Trouble with people is that they don't make a difference between immigrant and a refugee. Illegal immigrants are a problem, but it's not just Europe. And if you're not ok with your country letting refugees in, then your problem is with the country, not the people. John and Tibor?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 18:48:18 GMT
Haha not a bad call.
But yeah that's the sort of disgusting shit I've seen. The selfishness in human beings never surprises me though, I've heard people make comments like "We should just blow them all up to save people money and effort." So yeah, People are cunts (and stupid), I guess you could say people are stupid cunts.
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Post by Jie on Sept 5, 2015 19:19:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 23:17:18 GMT
What happened to those two?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 23:19:24 GMT
Haha not a bad call. But yeah that's the sort of disgusting shit I've seen. The selfishness in human beings never surprises me though, I've heard people make comments like "We should just blow them all up to save people money and effort." So yeah, People are cunts (and stupid), I guess you could say people are stupid cunts. They're more abundant on the internet. That's what anonymity brings out. But they're starting to open up in real life now. I'm glad when someone says it out loud - it's a way of telling me to avoid them.
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Post by Jie on Sept 6, 2015 12:11:07 GMT
What happened to those two? I think Jamie and Monty's charm overwhelmed them But in seriousness - they decided to make a Fb group after refusing to join here and now they're there - John, Tiborg, Robert Prosser, Steven Mercer... and Bill and Ng
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Post by Jie on Sept 6, 2015 12:25:19 GMT
As for the refugees, we've had a huge wave of them due to the shared border with Turkey. After two years of them living in utter misery in these camps while waiting for their passports, the UN finally decided to at least give some financial aid. It's not nearly enough as you can imagine, but the Syrians have been quiet, humble and respectful people so far - most of them took the opportunity to study Bulgarian and/or English while here and done everything they can to adapt. We've had some trouble with others coming into the country, a couple ISIS members but if our government can handle it, surely others can too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 12:50:40 GMT
What happened to those two? John is a member of therepublikofmankunia. I chat to him quite a bit on there. From what I understand Tibor threw his toys out the pram about something or other. I think he wanted everyone to pretend to be best mates and just let dickheads act like dickheads without calling them out, all for the sake of harmony and positivity and butterflies and unicorns. I wan't to know what happened to Danny. I miss Danny.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 12:54:33 GMT
What happened to those two? they decided to make a Fb group after refusing to join here and now they're there - John, Tiborg, Robert Prosser, Steven Mercer... and Bill and NgOh god... I bet that's a barrel of laughs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 14:16:12 GMT
So was that conversation you posted actually them? Sounds like the kind of retarded shit Audouc would have come out with.
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Post by Jie on Sept 6, 2015 19:23:28 GMT
I don't know what happened to Danny - he wanted unicorns and rainbows too, but he doesn't have a facebook so he's not there. He joined in here in the beginning but never returned (that's obviously cause he saw you two here) Bill has banned me or something so I can't read what he writes Other than the refugees topic no one really posts there, I guess they're all at RepublicofMancunia then?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 20:20:18 GMT
Only John as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 18:01:56 GMT
Getting fucked off with the amount of ignorant and selfish comments I'm hearing about these refugees. I've never been the most patriotic person in the world but I'm completely ashamed to be British right now, even more so than usual!
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