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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 8:10:24 GMT
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Post by Jie on Oct 17, 2016 18:51:11 GMT
This sounds more like a conspiracy theory than anything, but I haven't read the book so I can't really comment on it. Clinton is no angel by any means and she has plenty of baggage that comes with her. In another setting I wouldn't even consider her, but between her and Trump - pffff easiest choice ever. I'm glad I'm not American, it really shouldn't come down to voting for the lesser evil. On another note, if she wins, will Bill Clinton be called "the first gentleman"? The first man? The first mister?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 21:25:32 GMT
RICO act and laws cover conspiracy in US law. Terry Reed was former Air Force intelligence and FBI counter-intelligence specialist turned whistleblower (Iran-Contra). Pete Brewton is an award winning Texas investigative journalist with multiple degrees who went as far as he could in his book. Both required reading if you're short on contemporary US political history.
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Post by Jie on Oct 25, 2016 19:27:39 GMT
That's another concern, like him or not Obama and his cabinet have not moved an inch in front of Putin and if anything have helped in diminishing his influence in Europe, which only makes me happy as a former communist country.
Come to think of it, I don't really know Trump's position on emigration... apart from building a wall and all that nonsense. Angel, do you still think whoever is president will go with their plan to accept refugees?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 16:18:44 GMT
Deliberate and continual NATO expansionism along Russia's borders is the reason you've got what you've got, at the moment, from Russia. And a string of broken promises and lies from 'the West', as usual.
Contemporary history time again, only moving pictures this time, and not the written word.
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Post by Dave on Nov 9, 2016 8:50:26 GMT
President Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 10:32:01 GMT
Well. Next four years should be interesting as fuck. :lol:
What Donald wants and what Donald gets in the real world are two entirely different things. Personally, I think when he runs into established real world entities and mechanisms like, the CFR, I think he'll fold like the cowardly, bullshitting, two dollar hooker he really is. But we will wait and see.
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Post by Jie on Nov 9, 2016 17:28:51 GMT
Un-fucking-believable. And I thought you people with your Brexit is the dumbest thing I've seen this year. And now everybody gets what a group of "white uneducated men" deserve.
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Post by howAREya on Nov 9, 2016 19:13:59 GMT
First Brexit now Trump. Liverpool's year would just crown that off
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Post by Red Or Dead on Nov 9, 2016 21:24:24 GMT
First Brexit now Trump. Liverpool's year would just crown that off This....fucking this and all of the above... |
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Post by Jie on Nov 10, 2016 17:48:01 GMT
First Brexit now Trump. Liverpool's year would just crown that off Don't even say that as a joke! It's scary as it is |
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Post by Dave on Nov 10, 2016 19:04:31 GMT
If it was 'Liverpool's year' that would technically be next year  |
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Post by howAREya on Nov 10, 2016 20:09:02 GMT
Can always depend on Dave for something dry witted anyway. Waaay too much time on your hands
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 21:21:43 GMT
Y'all should just be grateful you're not going to war with Russia for at least 4 years. Put your party pants on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 11:31:21 GMT
Yes, you could get Reaganomics and Reagan all over again. Then again, you might just get something different. He knows he's despised by the majority and walks a tightrope in all directions atm, so first thing he needs to do is to broaden his appeal from the disaffected white fucks and hardcore anti-globalists that put him there.
Like I've said before; what Trump wants and what he actually gets in the real world are not necessarily the same. Whether he or anyone else likes it things move on, times change, along with people's vision and expectation.
And you're absolutely right, the Democrats are absolutely to blame for this. If you're stupid enough to push someone as toxic as Hilary Clinton, at the expense of someone like Sanders, in a straight fight of the 'outsiders' then you've got what you deserved. You've been outsmarted, out manoeuvred by someone who should have been consigned to the dustbin of political history long ago.
Look at the numbers for 'Brexit', if you had the referendum again that result would be reversed to roughly the same numbers (because a hefty chunk of people stupidly made it a protest vote) (which is why May would never offer a second vote unless forced to - which could happen). Farage is as despised as Trump here by the silent majority and he can't set foot in Scotland without an armed escort - and Donald and his golf club has always been as popular with Scots as ebola and the Tories...
And if May proceeds with hard Brexit then Scotland will be independent not long after, and there will be no more 'United Kingdom' which effectively eviscerates it's current standing on the world stage operating it's 'soft power' role (some would argue not a bad thing).
It looks obvious which way this is all heading - but it's not. You really think Trump is a two term president? There is a real possibility of fundamental change, institutional and otherwise in the US and other Western countries, that simply would not have been possible if Clinton had won, had Brexit not happened. Sure the opposition stinks of shit but they have a point and a valid story to tell also.
It's up to you and your generation to keep pushing for the change because things are going to 'flip-like-fuck' quickly because the world is in a state of idealogical and political flux atm.
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